MSNBC MELTDOWNWhere to begin? Yes, I'll enjoy somewhat but mostly your response makes me sad.
I walked off of MSNBC today. In hind sight I shouldn’t have but I was so disgusted by being filibustered I reached a boiling point.
It was one of those segments where two hosts appear and a specific point is debated. I’ve done these things for years and they are usually moderated where both host get to make their point but not today.
The non stop yelling, interrupting and putting words in my mouth was so obnoxious that I just said “enough” and walked.
I’ve finally realized that some people are so obsessed with their hatred of the President they are willing to get us all killed if they can just do something to attack George Bush. I don’t want to believe that but I have no choice. There are plenty of reasons to disagree with the President and plenty of reasons to attack him. Tracking terrorist is not one of them.
They must attack because no matter what they have to root for America to fail. They believe that America’s failure is good for them and they will do and say anything they possibly can to bring about that failure. They have spread lie after lie and people have swallowed those lies and are now part of their quest for America’s failure.
Is this administration perfect? No. Is this war going perfectly? No, but it would be over by now if the left had been supportive of the effort instead of becoming a hindrance.From day one we’ve heard of a predicted 10,000 casualties. From day one we’ve heard the word “quagmire,” the term “another Viet Nam” the question “does the president have a plan?” “Looting,” “not enough troops” “it cost too much.” The attacks have been non stop. Have things gone perfect? No. But its war and war is not like a movie.
We have had to hear about Abu Ghraib and, Guantanamo Bay where all the so called abuse and torture of prisoners happens daily. Ted Kennedy and the rest of the “bank on failure” crowd have screamed at the top of their lungs about prisoner abuse and the abusers are and have been brought to justice.
Where are they now? Where are they when America’s own are captured and mutilated?
I can tell you where they are, they are nowhere. Talking about Americans being tortured and mutilated, pointing out the evil in Americas enemies would not serve their “America must fail” message. Reminding Americans of the savagery of our enemies would remind Americans that we are at great risk. It would remind Americans that no matter how bad America is portrayed, our enemy is a thousand times worse. It would remind Americans that no matter how much we disagree with George Bush on a variety of topics, and there are many, George Bush has done something that Bill Clinton would never do which is stand up to radical Islam, and in that we must stand together.
Talking about the murder of Americans would take them off their game.
Yes, I blew up and walked off of MSNBC. I walked because I realized what a monkey show these so called TV debates have become. It’s become professional wrestling without the sparkly robes. I doubt if I will ever be invited back and I can live with that. Should I have walked? No and I accept responsibility for my actions. I’m not perfect just honest.
I know there are those who will enjoy it. Have fun.
First of all "hindsight" is one word Chris. You two were "guests" not "hosts" as well. I'm not sure this MSNBC appearance was designed to be a "debate" either.
Fillibustered? One question being asked does not make a fillibuster. Bernie didn't put words in your mouth but rather pressed you to answer one simple question based off the initial manner in which you two were introduced. That he'd not let you wiggle off the hook makes him an obsessive Bush basher? The question remains "Who gets to decide if something is a national security concern that merits censorship?" After having this adminstration stretch at best and more likely violate the laws and our traditions the question is very legitimate.
Here's where I am sad. Chris Baker has a forum for blasting away at Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton and "monkey show" TV debates. The balance of his argument escapes me. My favorite portion was the idea that "this war ... would be over by now if the left had been supportive of the effort instead of becoming a hindrance." I think that would draw a chuckle from some of the actual soldiers on the ground. You can be the 720th Chairborne and go after the real enemy possibly. The idea that Lefty people have an "America must fail" message is also notable. The "war is not like a movie" portion had me reflecting on Bu$hCo's "Mission Accomplished", the military handle being "Operation Codpiece", moment some three years ago. Karl Rove might not think war a movie but at least one hell of a campaign tool.
"Willing to get us all killed" is revealing and I remind you few if any serious analysts thinks that al-Qaeda was unaware of this data being compromised. I've even seen a few clips and reports where Bu$hCo was talking of this type of effort. Hardly a stealth arrangement it seems like plus I do understand that citizens are entitled to know when one of these administrative subpoenas are issued. I know Bu$hCo has been pushing hard at the NYT and a few other media outlets today yet as your man Reagan might say, "facts are stubborn things.". Dubyah doesn't like to answer questions either Chris but I'm looking forward to at least an effort by a reporter to nail him down. Asking Snow Job might have to suffice yet hope spring eternal.
I think the bottom line is the GOP figures it can't hurt to go after the so called liberal media. Keeping boys from marrying boys and stopping the rare flag burning with Constitutional Amendments can only go so far. The fact The NYT delayed the NSA warrantless wiretapping until after the 2004 election or Judy Miller was carrying water for Bu$hCo in the run up to the Iraq invasion or their examining just recently the Clinton's marriage on the front page or ... seems to have not mattered.
Finally, the idea that you think Lefty folks aren't caring about our soldiers being harmed is dreadful. We didn't send them there. We'd have made sure they had adequate body and vehicle armor instead of giving the Big Mules a tax cut as Houston's own Hot Tub Tom DeLay thought was the most important thing on the eve of war. We want them home ASAP and want answers to why and how they wound up there. This war was one of choice. No WMD! 10,ooo casualties? Try double that! Not greeted as liberators. Oil revenue have not paid for the conflict. Not enough boots on the groud. It was a PNAC wet dream to go into Iraq and now we see it was actually a nightmare. Iraq is on the brink of, if not already in, a Civil War. Intelligence was gamed and your guys leaked classified information to push back against one main critic. We have yet to get a full accounting on the Iraq conflict as the Rubber Stamp Congress is still stalling.
Our soldiers have been sent on tour after tour and we are seeing some unfortunately react poorly to the stresses they face. Torture is not the American way I'd offer yet this White House thinks portions the Geneva Convention is "quaint". Gitmo and Abu Ghraib are mere symptoms of how Rummy and Dick Cheney have handled their power. Low ranking folks have been brought to justice perhaps yet we have yet to get the whole story on how far up this goes. Congress overwhelmingly passes a law making clear that torture is not acceptableand your President issues a signing statement, a radical thing in and of itself, saying that he might not follow the law.
Extremist have flocked to Iraq, as Bu$hCo was warned, and this adminstration has created generations of terrorists rather than using the good will of the world we had after 9-11. Instead of building alliances and being patient, the Bu$hCo cabal chose to go to war. They also chose to go to war on our laws and traditions. I will not "stand together" if that means not being a critical observer and especially if ignoring our Constitution is required. George W. Bush does shame to this country. To argue this is I'd think actually patriotic. This isn't a "game" to be taken off of and for you to openly suggest this is offensive. I can hardly believe you'd reduce these outrageous excuses to writing yet perhaps this sells in true believer land.
Chris Baker, you'll likely remain in the Bu$h Leagues and perhaps this will work for you. With no more willingness to engage real issues then cheerleading, like your boy Dubyah did of course, might be the best place for you. Shill those GOP talking points and be a good Clear Channel operative. If that doesn't suit you, maybe Confederate Male Model work can carry you and yours along in Red State land. Dubyah has his "Commander Codpiece" moment and you can be "Confederate Codpiece", although I'd be a little more careful with that blade. Peace ... or War
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